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Old 08-02-2007, 09:39 PM   #1
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Report on the Teaching of Islam in Universities


A recent government report on how Islam is taught in British universities signals another step towards the Islamisation of Britain and its education system. It was launched by the Prime Minister, Tony Blair, at the opening of the "Islam and Muslims in the World Today" conference sponsored by Cambridge University on 4 June 2007. Should this report be implemented, education will be handed over more and more to Muslims who will train and shape the next generation. This means a further move towards the establishment of Islam in the UK as a religion of state.

The report was initiated by Bill Rammell, Minister of State for Higher Education and Lifelong Learning in the Department for Education and Skills, DfES. Rammell appointed Dr Ataullah Siddiqui, Senior Research Fellow at the Islamic Foundation, Leicester and Director of the Markfield Institute of Higher Education linked to it, to write the report.

It is well known that the Islamic Foundation is an Islamist institute founded by high ranking members of the Pakistani Islamist party, Jama’at-i Islami. However, in answer to questions in the House of Commons about possible links between Ataullah Siddiqui and Jama‘at-i-Islami, Rammell stated that “Dr Siddiqui has assured me categorically that he has no links to the Jamaat-e-Islami Party.” He also stated that neither the Islamic Foundation nor Markfield had any organizational links to Jama‘at-i-Islami. This reveals that Rammell does not understand how Islamists use dissimulation (taqiyya) to hide their real goals while claiming to be moderate and liberal.

Some of the report’s recommendations:

1. Universities should employ Muslim scholars to teach Islamic theology: “Students should be given the opportunity to learn from competent traditionally trained Islamic scholars in at least those parts of the syllabus that directly inform everyday practice of Islam.”

2. All universities must employ Muslim chaplains or advisers to deal with the growing number of Muslim students on campus. More prayer rooms for Muslims should be provided.

3. Islamic Student Societies should be better recognised and encouraged.

4. Universities should cooperate with Islamic schools (madrassas) and colleges (dar al-ulum) to break down the divisions between British society and the Muslim community. Universities should help madrassas and dar al-ulum because they play a key role in Muslim communities and in the training of future community leaders. They need a formal link to higher education qualifications.

5. Islamic studies should be linked to job opportunities such as teaching, chaplaincy and Islamic banking.

6. Universities should provide add-on modules in Islamic studies for all students.

7. Guidance should be given to all universities on Friday prayers, Ramadan and halal food. All university staff should receive awareness training on Muslims and Islam.

An analysis of these recommendations reveals that the report is in fact asking for a privileged position for Islam in the universities. It would seem to aim at transforming Islamic studies in Britain into a Muslim monopoly, a Muslim enclave in which the vast majority of staff and students are Muslim. It is implied that non-Muslim scholars cannot teach Islam because they do not unquestioningly accept its basic premises regarding the revelatory nature and divine authority of Qur‘an and hadith. Should these premises be accepted, the teaching faculty would be limited to traditional Muslim and Islamist lecturers. It is most likely that censorship would develop, affecting choice of staff, teaching methods and acceptable subjects for research and publication.

Islamists have long argued for an Islamisation of all Western academic studies by the introduction of basic Islamic concepts into all branches of knowledge. The aim is to expand Islamic domination into all spheres. The whole system of Western academic education must, say the Islamists, be recast and remoulded on Islamic lines as it is tainted by Christian and pagan influences.

The strengthening of Islamic student societies furthers this aim of Islamisation. Islamic student societies tend to follow radical Islamist and Wahhabi ideology. They usually take strongly anti-Western and pro-Islamist stands on most issues, including anti-Semitic views that regard all Jews as enemies of Islam. Many Muslim students are radicalised during their student years by these societies.

Implementing these recommendations, as the British government has promised to do, would be likely to narrow the scope of university Islamic studies and make them more intolerant and radical. Academic freedom of expression would become limited. Once fully Islamised, there would be little scope for free questioning, doubt and argument, the keys to real advances in knowledge. Muhammad and the Qur’an would be out of bounds as far as questioning their authority and historical development is concerned. This would be an alarming departure from established academic principles of disinterested inquiry. British institutions will come to resemble the Islamic universities in the Muslim world. These are described by Shabbir Akhtar, a well known British Muslim academic and author, who taught for three years at the International Islamic University of Malaysia. As a result of his experiences there, he is now opposed to Islam as a political ideology. The attitude of the Malaysian university authorities was that the West is opposed to Islam and that true Muslims have nothing to learn from Western academic scholarship since God has already revealed the whole truth in Islam. Akhtar experienced how, in Islamic universities, students and faculty alike are focused very much on defending Islam against Western Christian and secular liberal paradigms. He found they had little awareness of history and they unquestioningly accepted all Islamic theological dogma and claims.
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Old 08-02-2007, 09:44 PM   #2
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The controversy over terrorism terminology


A shift has been taking place in UK government ministries as to the terminology used to describe the terrorist threat faced by Britain. The Foreign Office has advised ministers to abandon the use of terms such as 'war against terror', 'Islamic terrorism' and 'Islamist terrorism'. The idea is that these terms antagonise the British Muslim community and increase tensions with the wider Muslim world. Using military terminology is seen as counter-productive, contributing to the isolating of communities from each other. According to proponents of this shift, such terms imply a conflict of religions and link Islam, the religion of peace, with terrorism and radicalism. They hold that the widespread use of such terms serves only to alienate and radicalise more Muslims who would otherwise be happy to integrate into a cohesive British society. Terrorists, they believe, use the sense of crisis engendered by the discourse on a 'clash of civilisation' and a 'war against Islamic terrorism' to recruit supporters who feel that Islam is being attacked and that Muslims must defend themselves. Abandoning such terms, according to the Foreign Office, will avoid empowering the terrorists' narrative and weaken the trend to radicalisation.


Another strand of thinking, expressed by Sir Ken Macdonald, Director of Public Prosecutions, is that it is better to see acts of terrorism as being carried out by individual criminals. These can be efficiently handled by the police and courts and need no special terminology or methodology to deal with them. Macdonald sees a danger that contemporary terrorism might tempt Britain to abandon its values in a “fear-driven and inappropriate” response, leading to the abandonment of respect for fair trials and due process of law. According to Macdonald,

London is not a battlefield. Those innocents who were murdered on July 7, 2005 were not victims of war. And the men who killed them were not, as in their vanity they claimed on their ludicrous videos, 'soldiers'. They were deluded, narcissistic inadequates. They were criminals. They were fantasists. We need to be very clear about this. On the streets of London, there is no such thing as a 'war on terror', just as there can be no such thing as a 'war on drugs' . . . The fight against terrorism on the streets of Britain is not a war. It is the prevention of crime, the enforcement of our laws and the winning of justice for those damaged by their infringement.

In a Radio 4 “Start the Week” programme on 2 July 2007, the philosopher John Gray and the historian Eric Hobsbawm agreed that it was wrong, dangerous and unfair to use the term “Islamist” because it implied a strong link to Islam.

Evidence of this new approach was present in the first Commons statement of the new Home Secretary, Jacqui Smith on 2 July 2007. While stating that Britain would not be intimidated by acts of terror she rarely mentioned Muslims, preferring to say “community leaders” for leaders of the Muslim community and “communities” for the Muslim community. This was interpreted as part of the deliberate change of language by ministers.

The new Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, in an interview following the attacks in London and Glasgow in late June, also avoided mentioning British Muslims, preferring to talk about al-Qaeda. His spokesman said the Prime Minister would avoid using the phrase “war on terror”. A European Commission guide for government spokesmen has recently been published which says that words such as “jihad”, “Islamic” or “fundamentalists” should be avoided in statements about terrorist attacks. It is thought that as a result, Brown asked Cabinet members not to mention the words “Muslim” and “terrorism” in the same context.

Now THIS I like to see....


Ex-Islamist radicals call for the reformation of Islam

Several Muslims who were involved in radical Islamist groups have recently rejected the radical ideologies. Ed Husain came out of Hizb ut-Tahrir and Hassan Butt left al-Muhajiroun determined to warn the public of the dangers of Islamist groups and their ideology. Both see Islamism as an outgrowth of classical Islamic theology. They attack the position that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism, arguing that denial blocks the possibility of reform. Muslims, they say, must acknowledge that there is a violent streak in Islam and that classical Islamic theology is a main engine of violence. They argue that the unwillingness of mainstream Islam in the UK to discuss the issue of violence within Islam allowed radical preachers to seize the high ground and recruit many young Muslims to their cause. Mainstream Muslims repeated the mantra that Islam is peace, denied the violent aspects of Islamic theology, and hoped the problems would disappear, thus leaving the field open for radicals and their ideologies. Muslims must cease ignoring the passages in Qur'an and Hadith which speak of killing unbelievers and challenge the centuries-old theology of jihad. Muslim scholars must refashion Islamic theology creating a reformed Islam for Muslims living in what Butt calls the land of co-existence. They must develop a new set of rules of rights and responsibilities which will enable Muslims to liberate themselves from ancient theological models that legitimised killing in the name of Islam.


Muslim journalist links Islamism with terror

The well known Muslim journalist Adel Darwish, editor of The Middle East magazine, has come out strongly against Muslims who object to the use of the term “Islamists” to refer to terrorists and their atrocities. Darwish claims that it is right to call them Islamists because they justify their atrocities by referring to Islam and the Qur'an. In his opinion, there is no term more appropriate for referring to them.
Analysis

While it makes sense to be sensitive to the Muslim community and its worries, the new terminology will not achieve its aim of reducing radicalisation. The reason is that it fails to see the connection between aspects of classical and traditional Islamic theology, Islamist ideology and the radicalisation that leads to terrorism. Of course it is possible that the government is practising its own version of dissimulation (Islamic taqiyya), recognising the reality of violence in Islam but suppressing its public discussion in order to mollify the Muslim public in its efforts to win hearts and minds.

This new strategy could prove counter-productive. Whilst it may carry the support of the wider community of Muslims who do not want to see their religion demonised, or of the wider British community which is sick of apocalyptic terrorism, it may end up empowering the Islamists and conservative Muslims because it allows them to continue unchallenged and furthermore to have their position strengthened by the rejection of the link between violence and their religion.

The new policy will also further marginalise the growing numbers of Muslim reformers and liberals who are just beginning to articulate their critique of the links between classical Islamic theology and violence. It could end up by alienating this important group who are rejecting the conservative and Islamist position and are calling for a reformation of Islam. Increasingly they are going to be distrustful of a government that now plays to the Islamists and conservatives and does not support the reformers and liberals in their endeavour.

The likely consequence of this policy will be an entrenched conservative Islamist position issuing in much greater violence. The government's strategy is a high risk one. Only time will tell whether it succeeds or whether it fails, perhaps dramatically. The real test of its success will be if the broad Muslim community and its leadership in Britain will publicly and privately reject all forms of violence attached to their religion and will embrace modern, Western values such as freedom, equality, human rights and religious liberty, and a loyalty to Britain and her values and way of life.

Finally, Muslims in Britain must face up to the strands of violence and intolerance in Islam if they are to isolate and suppress the continual emergence of radicals in their midst. While a number of Muslims have recently acknowledged these roots, politically correct talk and spin from the government will only encourage the Muslim community to ignore and deny the problem and continue to marginalise those within their community who can most help to find a solution. The real answer to the problem of radicalisation and violence among Muslims is a reformation of Islam that embraces the separation of religion from state and politics and that accepts a core of basic Islamic values, distilled from the Islamic source texts, as spiritual and moral norms that override coercive political and social interpretations. Such a reformation must reject traditional Islamic concepts about non-Muslims, violence and jihad.

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The thing about these types of pushes for specific studies is that the so-called well-meaning people will tell us that it is for better understanding and more sensitivity to those we don't know much about.
To understand another culture, race or nationality is one thing, but when it turns into a blatant "I'm going to force my culture on you and you must accept me and make my life in your country livable for MY culture because I am not and will not adapt to your culture. I will, though, adapt to you giving me free money because I am a poor misunderstood minority" activist push.

Just like our pussy government does in the United States the way they coddle the so-called poor misunderstood minorities and makes everyone take Diversity and Sensitivity Training classes to "understand and be sensitive" to these minorities.

I say, fuck 'em; they adapt to our culture and our country, not the other way around. You move to a country, you assimilate, period!

**Now watch the sensitive people come here and call me names and say I'm promoting hate speech and hate crimes. Idiots.

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I used to respect the brits but not so much anymore. Bunch of overly sensitive politically correct head up their asses pussies. Idiots.

DRILL, DRILL, DRILL!

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I believe screening people by their religion to determine whether they should get a job is fundamentally flawed and discriminatory.

I believe trying to censor specific words because they upset people no different an exercise then in trying to get a firm handle on jello. It doesn't work because you can't get a proper handle on just what it is you think you are trying to avoid.

I personally believe being tolerant is a two way street and the moment you imbalance a relationship and give only one side certain rights it throws a monkey wrench Spanner to you Brits) into democracy and certain basic values as to freedom of expression and opinon.

In the academic world it is crucial people learn to develop thick skin and not take views they disagree with personally and learn to dettach emotionally from them and challenge them using logical reasoning.

That is the whole point-to learn to rise above our emotions and feelings and use our brains.

I very much doubt universities in Britain will put up with any politician trying to curtail freedom of academic expression and trying to implement any system of hiring that would be based on having to have certain preconceived beliefs or say religious status.

There was this Professor at University of Toronto (Dr. Rushton) a behavioural psychologist who presented the belief that the mongoloid race was the most intelligent, then the caucasians, then the negroids. He presented all kinds of statistics about skull size, crime rates, etc.

His views were offensive to many. However simply firing him would have missed the point. By being able to debate him openly and challenge his data and opinions, people learned how full of it his opinions were. That is the point of learning - to use reason over emotion when confronted with views we do not agree with.

The key with Mr. Rushton was, he was a civil, calm, man. he didn't go around insulting black people or burning crosses. He kept all his comments to a non emotional, theoretical level. That is the point. In a democractic society we permit people to express views, as long as they remain civil and do not deliberately incite crime.

It was far more effective to render him foolish through logical reasoning rather then simply censor him and turn him into a victim which would have only served to get him sympathy.

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dhimmi, an excellent word to learn.
it means that in Islam non-muslims are considered less.
In Islam there is no golden rule, no equality, no pluralism... non-muslims are dogs.
dhimmis also must pay a tax if they wish to live in Islamic places. and there are all kinds of restrictions.
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The thing about these types of pushes for specific studies is that the so-called well-meaning people will tell us that it is for better understanding and more sensitivity to those we don't know much about.
To understand another culture, race or nationality is one thing, but when it turns into a blatant "I'm going to force my culture on you and you must accept me and make my life in your country livable for MY culture because I am not and will not adapt to your culture. I will, though, adapt to you giving me free money because I am a poor misunderstood minority" activist push.

Just like our pussy government does in the United States the way they coddle the so-called poor misunderstood minorities and makes everyone take Diversity and Sensitivity Training classes to "understand and be sensitive" to these minorities.

I say, fuck 'em; they adapt to our culture and our country, not the other way around. You move to a country, you assimilate, period!

**Now watch the sensitive people come here and call me names and say I'm promoting hate speech and hate crimes. Idiots.
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That doesn't go along with their agenda of taking over the world though.
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I used to respect the brits but not so much anymore. Bunch of overly sensitive politically correct head up their asses pussies. Idiots.
Unfortunately there's alot of those HERE in the USA too.
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