Judge rules that Plame can't reveal the dates she worked for CIA

Vortex · 08-03-2007, 11:32 PM

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Ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame loses court decisionJudge rules that she can't reveal the dates she worked for the spy agency in her forthcoming book.
By Josh Getlin
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

Aug. 4, 2007 -- NEW YORK -- In a setback for Valerie Plame, a federal judge ruled today that the former CIA agent cannot divulge the dates she worked for the agency in her forthcoming book, "Fair Game: My Life as a Spy, My Betrayal by the White House." The decision by U.S. District Judge Barbara S. Jones was a victory for the CIA, which had argued that such information was classified and should not be made public.

Plame was at the heart of a controversial case in which administration officials were accused of leaking news about her covert status in 2003 to several reporters after her husband, former envoy Joseph C. Wilson IV, publicly raised questions about the intelligence used to justify the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

Simon & Schuster, which is publishing Plame's memoir, said it was "disappointed in the court's ruling, which we believe runs counter to the 1st Amendment, sets a dangerous precedent and creates an unreasonable standard by which the government can disappear public information and rewrite history," according to a statement by spokesman Adam Rothberg.

The ruling by Jones came as a result of a lawsuit that the publisher and author had filed in May seeking to bar the CIA from interfering with publication of her memoir.

Plame and Simon & Schuster had argued that the dates of her service before 2002 -- which the CIA was seeking to keep classified -- had already been made public on a federal website and should no longer be considered classified information. The publisher said it still plans to publish the book this fall but would not comment on whether it plans to appeal today's ruling.

In her ruling, Jones said that "the information at issue was properly classified and has not been officially acknowledged by the CIA." She did acknowledge, however, that it has appeared in the public domain.

Following the furor over news leaks about Plame's status, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice. His sentence of 30 months was commuted by President Bush last month, but his conviction on those charges was not erased.

Last month, a federal judge dismissed a separate lawsuit filed by Plame and her husband that sought to hold Cheney and others personally responsible for damages as a result of the disclosure of Plame's identity.

Ex-CIA agent Valerie Plame loses court decision - BOOK NEWS - Los Angeles Times - calendarlive.com

My, my Plame was a classified CIA agent, her job so classified that the CIA sued to prevent her from publishing the dates she worked for the CIA. So classified that the Court ruled she couldn't publish the information.

08-03-2007, 11:43 PM

What? It's classified information? But all these righties keep saying she wasn't a classified agent! LOL!!!!

And I'm sure they'll keep spreading that lie. They love the lies so much those rightie liar lovers.

I look forward to reading her book.

Vortex · 08-04-2007, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

What? It's classified information? But all these righties keep saying she wasn't a classified agent! LOL!!!!

And I'm sure they'll keep spreading that lie. They love the lies so much those rightie liar lovers.

I look forward to reading her book.

Oh please, ViolaLee, just because the CIA says she was a classified agent and just because the CIA sued to prevent her from publishing her dates of employment because those dates and employment is so classified and just because the court ruled she couldn't publish the dates she worked as a classified agent for the CIA because the information had not been declassified, thus finding she was classified, doesn't mean she was classified. The right believes the opinions of non-classified former government folks who shall not be identified and the words of non-classified journalists and RNC PR folks who never worked for the CIA and who say she was not classified.

The right is always right, right.

michaelr · 08-04-2007, 12:33 AM

Damn it Vortex, I keep trying to green you, but right now I cant..Great thread and I look forward to reading the responses.

Vortex · 08-04-2007, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by michaelr

Damn it Vortex, I keep trying to green you, but right now I cant..Great thread and I look forward to reading the responses.

thanks michaelr, you can owe me the green

You know as well as I do, they may read the thread, but they won't post to it, they will let it fall away to the second page, what they always do when the truth in a thread bothers them.

Freedom for All · 08-04-2007, 12:45 AM

The important question is "was she under covers when Armitage leaked her name."

Also, those dates can be tied to the actions of others and possibly reveal the identities of other agents who really are in life threatening covert positions.

Her desire to reveal those dates highlights the entire nature of the Plame Game. She doesn't care about the lives of covert agents, she sued in court for the freedom to put their lives at risk. Which is funny, considering the holier-than-Bush attitude she and her accomplices adopted in pushing that bogus case.

Nope, it's always been about keeping the media spotlight on her to maximize the impact on Bush and to boost her value as a media figure. Hence the book deal.

Totally expected from her.

mdmx96 · 08-04-2007, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

thanks michaelr, you can owe me the green

You know as well as I do, they may read the thread, but they won't post to it, they will let it fall away to the second page, what they always do when the truth in a thread bothers them.

I don't know who "them" are, but I am guessing that your version of reality is not the only one.

Vortex · 08-04-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Freedom for All

The important question is "was she under covers when Armitage leaked her name."

Also, those dates can be tied to the actions of others and possibly reveal the identities of other agents who really are in life threatening covert positions.

Her desire to reveal those dates highlights the entire nature of the Plame Game. She doesn't care about the lives of covert agents, she sued in court for the freedom to put their lives at risk. Which is funny, considering the holier-than-Bush attitude she and her accomplices adopted in pushing that bogus case.

Nope, it's always been about keeping the media spotlight on her to maximize the impact on Bush and to boost her value as a media figure. Hence the book deal.

Totally expected from her.

Totally unexpected from you!

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Armitage didn't have the clearance to know she was CIA, someone had to leak it to him. You really do need to catch on.

And yes, she was classified at the time of the leak, so sayeth the CIA Employment History admitted as evidence against Scooter Libby during the sentencing phase of his trial. You remember the one that I have posted before for you.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/se...mployement.pdf

Vortex · 08-04-2007, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mdmx96

I don't know who "them" are, but I am guessing that your version of reality is not the only one.

Oh goodie, my plan is working, you guys care, you really care.

So do you have any comments about Plame's classified status or was my taunt the only reason you came to post. "Got to try to prove Vortex wrong and do it with tiresome snark."

michaelr · 08-04-2007, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Vortex

thanks michaelr, you can owe me the green

You know as well as I do, they may read the thread, but they won't post to it, they will let it fall away to the second page, what they always do when the truth in a thread bothers them.

Heard that...