Zarathustra

When Lincoln fought a war over the South's seccession, he asserted that the South did not have a right to secede from the Union. I beleived this for a long time. But recently, my sympathies have shifted towards the Confederate States. I now beleive that the South had a right to secede. Here's an interesting article I found on the subject:Do States Have a Right of Secession? by Walter Williams -- Capitalism Magazine

So I hope we're all proud of ourselves, sacrificing soldiers for a country that would send a man to prision for throwing shoes.
- Sparta on Iraq


The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.

~Dick Cheney

"You do not know what genocide is, do you? It means the irradication of a race to obliviation through death."
- Tick

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Desidude666

Not in a democratic institution. If you can elect your leader and throw him out, you don't have the valid reasons for separation.

What you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am by myself. There are and will be a thousand princes; there is only one Beethoven. - Ludwig van Beethoven

Zarathustra

You can only throw him out if he commits a crime. You can't just throw him out on a whim.

So I hope we're all proud of ourselves, sacrificing soldiers for a country that would send a man to prision for throwing shoes.
- Sparta on Iraq


The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.

~Dick Cheney

"You do not know what genocide is, do you? It means the irradication of a race to obliviation through death."
- Tick

Desidude666

When you elect him, you do a firm check. If you do not like all candidates, do not vote. It's a majority win system, hence you have to live with the fact that your least favourite candidate is supported by a number of other people in the majority. Does it mean separation? No. Because that is a democracy.

What you are, you are by accident of birth; what I am, I am by myself. There are and will be a thousand princes; there is only one Beethoven. - Ludwig van Beethoven

melchizedek22

<The south had a right to legally secede,meaning,apply to congress to make a law for legal seccession. They chose to go the illegal route,which was treason!

Zarathustra

Lincoln was still wrong though. Americans elected George Bush. Does that make George Bush right in invading Iraq? Of course not! Why should Lincoln be any different?

So I hope we're all proud of ourselves, sacrificing soldiers for a country that would send a man to prision for throwing shoes.
- Sparta on Iraq


The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.

~Dick Cheney

"You do not know what genocide is, do you? It means the irradication of a race to obliviation through death."
- Tick

Zarathustra

Did you read the article? They already had the legal right to secede. Even Thomas Jefferson says that states can secede anytime they want.

So I hope we're all proud of ourselves, sacrificing soldiers for a country that would send a man to prision for throwing shoes.
- Sparta on Iraq


The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.

~Dick Cheney

"You do not know what genocide is, do you? It means the irradication of a race to obliviation through death."
- Tick

melchizedek22

Sherman said NO!

Zarathustra

Uhhh, is this the part where I'm supposed to laugh?

So I hope we're all proud of ourselves, sacrificing soldiers for a country that would send a man to prision for throwing shoes.
- Sparta on Iraq


The question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? And the answer is not very damned many.

~Dick Cheney

"You do not know what genocide is, do you? It means the irradication of a race to obliviation through death."
- Tick

dzustaparadox

But the US is not a "democracy".