A Dagger for the Troops - Page 2

Think for myself · 09-06-2007, 06:18 PM

That line was a stupid thing to say, but it's also a bit out of context without the rest of the speech. I am not defending the line, just saying.

Here's more from the same speech.

Now, some have argued that the surge in Iraq is working. But, Mr. President, all you have to do is look at the facts to know that that is not the case. The President went to Anbar Province, which at the moment he is touting as a place of success, but we all know what's happening in Iraq. Many other provinces are in terrible shape. In Iraq you get the certain sense that when you push on one end of the balloon and make things a little better, something pops out at another end.

And another bit.

And the fallacy of the President's new policy is just amazing. Are we placing our faith in the future of Iraq in the hands of some tribal leaders who at the moment dislike al Qaeda more than they dislike us? Make no mistake about it. They're no friends of Americans.

Migi e! · 09-06-2007, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowman

I just hate it when you act as TD's cheerleader.

Now, now, you know I don't have a problem with TD. Plus, I had posted that link on another thread & am glad he posted a thread on it.

Migi e! · 09-06-2007, 06:21 PM

Wait a minute, now it's bad that the war lords are getting it together?

Think for myself · 09-06-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

Wait a minute, now it's bad that the war lords are getting it together?

I thought that Iraq was intended to be a democracy, not run by a bunch of warlords. I will certainly say that they are doing some good, but do we want a bunch of lawless people running the country and killing everyone that happens to be their own enemy?

Nerdo · 09-06-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

Now, now, you know I don't have a problem with TD. Plus, I had posted that link on another thread & am glad he posted a thread on it.

But he's such a buttmunch.

Inkslinger · 09-06-2007, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Think for myself

That line was a stupid thing to say, but it's also a bit out of context without the rest of the speech. I am not defending the line, just saying.

Here's more from the same speech.

Now, some have argued that the surge in Iraq is working. But, Mr. President, all you have to do is look at the facts to know that that is not the case. The President went to Anbar Province, which at the moment he is touting as a place of success, but we all know what's happening in Iraq. Many other provinces are in terrible shape. In Iraq you get the certain sense that when you push on one end of the balloon and make things a little better, something pops out at another end.

And another bit.

And the fallacy of the President's new policy is just amazing. Are we placing our faith in the future of Iraq in the hands of some tribal leaders who at the moment dislike al Qaeda more than they dislike us? Make no mistake about it. They're no friends of Americans.

You'll never convince the people:

kmiller1610 · 09-06-2007, 06:25 PM

I think it's clear that the Sunni warlords are seeing a potential, very bad future for their sect. If Iraq's majority links up with Iran, we're talking potential for ethnic cleansing, so any allegiance to AQ has been lowered in priority.

At the same time, the US has been actively cultivating and trying to channel the Sunni's change of heart. This program has been going on long before the surge.

Bluegrass · 09-06-2007, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Truth Detector

I'm writing off Chuck Schumer's offensive rhetoric as just another example of the desperation of his party and the Left.

How profound of you Chuck. You voted FOR the war, and now claim that the troops are so incompetent and inept, that the warlords are doing the job for them.

You're about as profound as your ignorant pal Kerry claimed the troops go into Iraqi homes in the dark of night to terrorize them.

If this is the Democrats notion of troop support, who needs Al Qaeda. Osama must be laughing his despotic ass off watching the Americans fight amongst themselves. He's gleeful in seeing the Leftists and Democrats so desperately trying to carry out his strategy for victory.

Yep, you really have to be profound to be a Leftist or Democrat these days. Makes you wonder how a party can align itself with the enemy in the interest of political gain.

So what's the point here? Anyone who sees this fiasco in Iraq objectively can see that suits in both parties voted for the war in droves, because it was politically viable. Based on current events, it looks as though both parties continue to be equally desperate- as the hacks on the right overstate progress and hacks on the left understate progress.

Migi e! · 09-06-2007, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Think for myself

I thought that Iraq was intended to be a democracy, not run by a bunch of warlords. I will certainly say that they are doing some good, but do we want a bunch of lawless people running the country and killing everyone that happens to be their own enemy?

Why not, they run this country.

Migi e! · 09-06-2007, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowman

But he's such a buttmunch.

Shame on you.
I like TD.