mogar

Due to the fact that my mom has either been a teacher or principal all her life, I have extensive experience with the behind the scenes content of US public schools. There's one thing to say: they get get a 33.

Public schooling these days is terrible. The teachers are more concerned with their paychecks than with actually teaching, leading to many children not getting sufficient educations. It disgusts me. People keep saying 'budgets are too low' but throwing money at it won't help it. We need genuine work.

I'm just wondering, what are your opinions on the subject?

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Blueneck

I work in a small store and practically every day somebody comes by begging for donations for the local school's extracurricular activities. Where the hell does all the lottery money go?

mogar

usually to smaller organisations within the school. For instance, i am in afjrotc. we do fundraisers that go directly to us because we have very little money for it. school budgets are usually spent on major improvements, like buying into privatized school transportation (another thing i hate)

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Common Sense Craig

My daughter started Public School 3 weeks ago after being in Private School for 5 years and I'm kind of wondering what's going on there, too. Actually, I had this feeling that the curriculum would be dumbed down more in Public School, where it wasn't in Private School.
I mean, hell, they spent the first week and a half "finding out and learning about" the school!!! WTF is that about? In Private School, she had homework the first day!

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johnflesh

I agree, they do get a 33. You hit a lot of individual subjects here that do fall under the umbrella of education that are of major concern to me, mainly because I have some skin in the game as well, a child...or two.

Public schools are terrible but it isn't first because teachers are more concerned about their paychecks. That may be an issue but it is more of a natural issue if pointed out. Everyone who makes what they make, is concerned about money, but you have to hand it to teachers who do what they do because they love it. And you can never accuse a teacher of doing their job for the money in public schools. The teachers who work their asses off to live and teach well should be payed what a major league basketball player makes in my personal opinion. At least it would go to a worth while cause.

Money does help and is mostly the foundation for a school's life. It is important that schools get the funding they need for every little thing that is needed and nothing spared. When it comes down to fundamentals of the idea of a school, you are right, money isn't the issue. So many people in the profession are under-appreciated and in some cases expect to raise the kids themselves which naturally lowers moral. This causes people to expect more than they are getting and in the end it beats them or they beat it, sometimes for pennys more. These people are in the position to make or break a person intellectually and they deserve more than what they recieve, money and more importantly support.

In Texas we have a test that we grade our schools on. This test is the same for inner-city under funded schools as it is for more wealtier district schools. This test is given to the students much like a SAT test in that it has your basic multiple choice, reading, writing, history, math, science, etc. This test is then graded, if the students pass, the school passes and is given a title for success. But if they fail, the school fails, meaning the teachers fail, the staff fails, not the children. On top of it, the school is then cut less funding from the state... that is right, LESS FUNDING. And in worse cases, like 4 in Houston alone, schools are closed altogether.

You know what this says? This says "we Texas government have lost faith in our own education and are willing to cut you off if you fail my test." What fucking balls they have to do such a thing. If anything, these schools need more attention and help. How is laying off teachers and removing whole grades from your school improving the situation, and that comes down to money. Talk about pressure.

Public schools are a dying breed being killed by under funding and under supporting government. The community usually caves on fighting for any school because the government knows whats best.

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Sparta

My son started 2nd grade this year, he's got a great teacher, has art, music, PE, and Spanish twice a week. Spanish! He sees a cousilor weekly, as all kids in his school do, and we get reports weekly on his behavior, communication & social skills, and progress in his studies. I couldn't be happier with the public school system here.

johnflesh

Outstanding. That almost sounds too good to be true around here. I went to a good public school, but by the time I graduated, it had a police station built in to the art building and had become pretty tough. Quite a dramatic change.

However I am moving to Colorado early next year and think my sons will be in better hands when shoved off to school.

It really is fortunate for you that he has so much to do in that school and has great teachers. My wife and I fear placing our kids in public schools here and if we had to stay I doubt we would.

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Sparta

My public school education was no where near as good as his appears to be, things have certainly changed. I don't know what the test scores would look like in the state as a whole, but from where I'm sitting there are a few school systems that have done very well in CT. I suppose it doesn't hurt being one of the wealthiest states, and being surrounded by the wealthiest communities in that state.

johnflesh

That indeed doesn't hurt. With what you mention of the state perhaps being poor at education, it is fortunate for him, all the best in that regard.

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LaughingArabPhilospher

Would you take a pay check of 33k a year to teach a bunch of brats? Would you take a 33k a year to teach the nations youth? The future of tomorrow? Why should they get payed so little when a guy who cannot even sign his name gets payed a quarter of a million to throw a ball in a hoop.

It is impossible to teach a man what he already thinks he knows.-Epictetus

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