Zogby poll - Bomb Iran! - Page 3

Inkslinger · 10-30-2007, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

I can't believe that you honestly believe that "i-wanna-jihad arm-n-leg" never said that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. Who said he didn't say it? Him? There's many places on the net that his words about wiping Israel off the map can be found, & he said it on several different ocassions.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israel off that map over there may not be a bad idea since it obviously hasn't been working out for 60 years. I say move em here to the midwest. Whole lotta desert.. it'd be just like Palestine.

michaelr · 10-30-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

I can't believe that you honestly believe that "i-wanna-jihad arm-n-leg" never said that he wants to wipe Israel off the map. Who said he didn't say it? Him? There's many places on the net that his words about wiping Israel off the map can be found, & he said it on several different ocassions.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is the quote;

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"Imam ghoft een rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods bayad az safheh-ye ruzgar mahv shavad."

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That passage will mean nothing to most people, but one word might ring a bell: rezhim-e. It is the word "Regime", pronounced just like the English word with an extra "eh" sound at the end. Ahmadinejad did not refer to Israel the country or Israel the land mass, but the Israeli regime. This is a vastly significant distinction, as one cannot wipe a regime off the map. Ahmadinejad does not even refer to Israel by name, he instead uses the specific phrase "rezhim-e ishghalgar-e qods" (regime occupying Jerusalem).

So this raises the question.. what exactly did he want "wiped from the map"? The answer is: nothing. That's because the word "map" was never used. The Persian word for map, "nagsheh", is not contained anywhere in his original farsi quote, or, for that matter, anywhere in his entire speech. Nor was the western phrase "wipe out" ever said. Yet we are led to believe that Iran's President threatened to "wipe Israel off the map", despite never having uttered the words "map", "wipe out" or even "Israel".

here is the source

Read the whole page.

Israel has 300 nukes Iran 0, do the math!

michaelr · 10-30-2007, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Inkslinger

Israel off that map over there may not be a bad idea since it obviously hasn't been working out for 60 years. I say move em here to the midwest. Whole lotta desert.. it'd be just like Palestine.

Fucking got that right!

Migi e! · 10-30-2007, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelr

Here is the quote;

Here is the meaning;

here is the source

Read the whole page.

Israel has 300 nukes Iran 0, do the math!

DO you also believe that Arafat never said he wanted Israel wiped off the map?
Just because Amouhd didn't say it first means nothing. Don't you think if an enemy of the US said "we must wipe Washington out" that it would be an attack on the whole of the US. Wasn't the attack on 911 an attack on AMerica?

Citizen Ross · 10-30-2007, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelr

I agree and with that in mind then you will see a shift to wards an Iranian type nation.

That on it's surface means that the Sunnis will take a back seat. Do you think that they will be able to change their 3~4 thousand year heritage?

Yes, I do, and the enormous voter turnout shown in the elections held so far shows that the vast majority of the Iraqi people are willing to accept democracy and work with it. Both Sunni and Shia have representation in the Iraqi governemt to prevent a tyranny by either side. The only way Iraq will revert to an Iranian style of government is if America gives up before Iraq has a descent standing army and Iran invades. Yet another reason to stay until the job is done, and yet another reason why I, and most of America, do not want to see Iran developing any nuclear weapons.

ViolaLee · 10-30-2007, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

DO you also believe that Arafat never said he wanted Israel wiped off the map?

That has nothing to do with the lie that Ahmedinijad said Israel should be wiped off the map.

It's a damn shame that so many believe the lies without even trying to learn the truth. There have been many knowledgable people telling us that Ahmedinijad never said what the Bush administration is claiming he said. But the brainwashed sheep keep believing the liar. I get angry when lied to. I guess some people enjoy it.

michaelr · 10-30-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Migi e!

DO you also believe that Arafat never said he wanted Israel wiped off the map?

Were not talking about Arafat here and we are not thinking about nuking Palestine so this question has no merit!

But to answer anyway, I do not know!

I do know that minijads statement was taken out of context to create fear, and I believe thats Bullshit!

Zarathustra · 10-30-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

That has nothing to do with the lie that Ahmedinijad said Israel should be wiped off the map.

It's a damn shame that so many believe the lies without even trying to learn the truth. There have been many knowledgable people telling us that Ahmedinijad never said what the Bush administration is claiming he said. But the brainwashed sheep keep believing the liar. I get angry when lied to. I guess some people enjoy it.

Yeah, that's right Viola, some people totally enjoy being lied to. You hit the nail on the head...

Migi e! · 10-30-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ViolaLee

That has nothing to do with the lie that Ahmedinijad said Israel should be wiped off the map.

It's a damn shame that so many believe the lies without even trying to learn the truth. There have been many knowledgable people telling us that Ahmedinijad never said what the Bush administration is claiming he said. But the brainwashed sheep keep believing the liar. I get angry when lied to. I guess some people enjoy it.

It's even a worse damn shame that there are people that hate this administration so much that they'll take the word of a terrorist & the country be dammed. This shit will come back to haunt when a dem does takle power because if you or anybody else thinks that the people of Amhouds ilk care a damn about whether one is dem or repub then you're in for a rude awakening!!!!

Did you read my whole post or just cherry pick as you usually do?

michaelr · 10-30-2007, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Yeah, that's right Viola, some people totally enjoy being lied to. You hit the nail on the head...

I some times think they do, hey it cuts out the leg work!