Ron Paul, Politics and the Internet in the '08 Campaign - Page 3

Zarathustra · 12-05-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

Your article has a point. And I'm amazed he did write it. And, yes, he probably will be spammed with hate mail by a large amount of rabid street teamers. But, he was a little harsher than need be, while at the same time pretty damn honest and pretty on the ball. And RCP.com usually goes with the brutally honest stuff.

He did get his facts a little wrong. His supporters demographic is a little off. One example is, the person who sets up the money bombs is a 37 year old who has NEVER voted IN HIS LIFE.

LOL, what salient point did that article make?

Colin · 12-05-2007, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

Same difference. He was insulting people for holding different views from him.

So wait, any criticism of the Ron Paul support base or its viability come election day counts as "insults" and slandering.

That's just a load of shit.

Zarathustra · 12-05-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colin

So wait, any criticism of the Ron Paul support base or its viability come election day counts as "insults" and slandering.

That's just a load of shit.

Umm, calling people kooks is a load of shit.

Sparta · 12-05-2007, 05:15 PM

Right, it's not insulting to suggest that those who support Paul do so because they seek "easy answers" to our nations problems. Sure.

Zarathustra · 12-05-2007, 05:16 PM

His article is insulting in that it implies that only a few kooks on the internet support RP and don't really know what he stands for.

Defensor · 12-05-2007, 05:28 PM

Wow, Colin posting another crappy Ron Paul-bashing thread...what a surprise.

freckles · 12-05-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

LOL, what salient point did that article make?

Two points actually. That internet hype, donations, and support does not necessarily translate into polls which lead to winning elections. And he cited examples of Clinton, Guiliani, Obama, and Huckabee, who has recently begun his 'hype' and watched his numbers soar. And two, while it's possible to impact a primary election, it's unlikely, when you are counting on support from people coming in from other factions of political membership instead of the people who already belong to it, to win it. It is rare a group of outsiders can outnumber a solidified and established group enough to overturn them.

michaelr · 12-05-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

Two points actually. That internet hype, donations, and support does not necessarily translate into polls which lead to winning elections. And he cited examples of Clinton, Guiliani, Obama, and Huckabee, who has recently begun his 'hype' and watched his numbers soar. And two, while it's possible to impact a primary election, it's unlikely, when you are counting on support from people coming in from other factions of political membership instead of the people who already belong to it, to win it. It is rare a group of outsiders can outnumber a solidified and established group enough to overturn them.

I read an article posted by Defensor yesterday, it made a subtle yet powerful statement, something on the lines of; he only needs a solid minority of support.

It goes to the fact that people are all over the place with these so called candidates. If Paul's support stays strong then he will win the primaries hands down. This article here will not distract his supporters, it is not intended to, it is however intended to assure that his base will not swell. I don't think that the article reach it's intended consequence, in other words Paul stands a great chance of winning.

freckles · 12-05-2007, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by michaelr

I read an article posted by Defensor yesterday, it made a subtle yet powerful statement, something on the lines of; he only needs a solid minority of support.

It goes to the fact that people are all over the place with these so called candidates. If Paul's support stays strong then he will win the primaries hands down. This article here will not distract his supporters, it is not intended to, it is however intended to assure that his base will not swell. I don't think that the article reach it's intended consequence, in other words Paul stands a great chance of winning.

He needs a solid minority of support that is larger than the other Republican candidate. With that many candidates, one must only get a minority support to become the nominee. But, one also be able to get donations and support without wacky money bombing tactics or spam techniques. That's great for a start up, but not for an established campaign if it intends on competing with the real deal. You shouldn't have to resort to some of the things his campaign is doing. It should just happen. Naturally. Like Huckabee's. He started getting hype and his numbers went up.

While I applaud the amount of effort his fans are doing, it seems to be more his fans doing it than actually him. I really don't see him making too much of an effort.

johnflesh · 12-05-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freckles

Two points actually. That internet hype, donations, and support does not necessarily translate into polls which lead to winning elections. And he cited examples of Clinton, Guiliani, Obama, and Huckabee, who has recently begun his 'hype' and watched his numbers soar. And two, while it's possible to impact a primary election, it's unlikely, when you are counting on support from people coming in from other factions of political membership instead of the people who already belong to it, to win it. It is rare a group of outsiders can outnumber a solidified and established group enough to overturn them.

This is what I read in the article.

The bolded is to show that this article isn't an end all just because statistically it's correct. A little harsh but meh.

The author seems as if its just so easy to give up on doing something based on the size of the audience. Get rid of your ego and perhaps you can do something for yourself in life. From me to him. It's like a kid who throws his arms in the air and yells "I can't do it!"