jojo

Whose job is it to make sure local business aren't being mugeed by gangs of kids who should be in school? It's cheaper to educate them than it is to jail them. Or do you say all kids should be home schooled - we shuld dimantle all public chooling immediately?

Let me start off by saying that in 2000 I said, 'Vote for me. I'm an agent of change.' In 2004, I said, 'I'm not interested in change --I want to continue as president.' Every candidate has got to say 'change.' That's what the American people expect." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 5, 2008

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jojo

So you wuld eliminate anyone paying for schooling unless they have a child? Would you do the same for people who pay for police, fire and military protection? What about paying for jailees if they ain't in my family and never done me harm?

That's sorta like the way they run those really successful countries in Africa - like Sudan and Kenya.

Let me start off by saying that in 2000 I said, 'Vote for me. I'm an agent of change.' In 2004, I said, 'I'm not interested in change --I want to continue as president.' Every candidate has got to say 'change.' That's what the American people expect." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 5, 2008

lakeman

My primary complaint is that they were paying twice for a service that they were only receiving once.

Mea culpa on not being more clear and adding more detail regarding people who do not have children. Everyone benefits from the education of all the other people's children - though obviously to a lesser degree than the actual parents. It does seem reasonable that non-parents would contribute a much smaller amount toward public education, which unfortunately is not how it is.

That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest.
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AntipatheticNonconformist

this is a good start. the education scheme seems to be lacking the ethical component. learning the basics to harness the dollar will enevitably be the down fall of mankind. while large companies should make a lot a money, they should also see to welfare of their employess. it is the employee that makes the money not the owner. thomas jefferson said,
“Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
note he says liberty not GDP.

leroy15

I would abolish "Education" degrees and require teachers to have degrees in an actual discipline. When I was an under-grad in math I had a 3rd year class in Abstract Algebra which as a crip class for math majors. It was the highest level math class the math ed. students had to take. I literally slept through the class and got an "A." The ed. majors struggled to pass.

Eduction is the one field where there has been no discernible improvement in the functioning of the practitioners in 40 years: no improvement in efficiency, no improvement in quality. Every real filed can demonstrate improvements in both.

Have history taught by a teacher with a degree in history.

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freckles

I agree with that, but I also feel that you need need at least a few semesters of education based classes. It's pretty vital.

In the wild, there is no healthcare. In the wild healthcare is 'Ow, I hurt my leg. I can't run. A lion eats me, and I'm dead.' Well, I'm not dead. I'm the lion. You're dead.

1Samuel8

I would reform public schools by simply abolishing them.


I would eliminate forcing anybody to pay for schooling. If you want your kid in daycare, you register and pay.

Same. I would also let people have the absolute right to own land and private property -- as opposed to the lip-service rights we have now.

No, it is not. Many people in third-world countries are subjected to brutal dictatorships.

lakeman

Capitlaism provides the means for large companies to provide for the welfare of their employes.

Anyone who does not like the compensation package they are getting can go to another company to get a better package if they are worth more than they are getting. This way companies will always pay people what they are worth.

Once upon a time large companies held monopolies and abused thier employees, they also conspired with other companies to hold wages down. Both these are a violation of the principle of competition that makes capitalism work. These practices are unjust and are now outlawed as they should be.

But what if you are not worth a wage high enough to earn a living that will support you? Seems to me that schools need to turn out, as a minimum, people who have at least this much talent. Maybe these people should sue the school.

That is not a just government, nor is property secure under it, where the property which a man has in his personal safety and personal liberty, is violated by arbitrary seizures of one class of citizens for the service of the rest.
-James Madison-

wyly

I'm not sure of the teaching requirements here but many of the high school teachers I had, had education degrees as well as a degree in the subject they were teaching they knew their stuff, unlike my elementary school teachers.......my favourite teacher from high school was a history teacher who was a university student in Germany before WW2 and had personally attended some Nazi beer hall rallies, as well he was a bomber pilot during the war....

Nerv14

Even though the United States spends the more on education per-person in public schools than most (or all) countries the education is still horrible. Even though all of the other industrialized countries pay less for schooling, when it comes to schooling the United States actually pays one of the lowest salaries to its teachers.

Large amounts of money are either being wasted or there is emphysis on the wrong areas. (but the United State's education doesn't excell in anything...) If the wages of teachers were to be increased, even if the other funding was decreased than teachers would stay longer in their profession and teacher's experience would increase.

I also think that too many students aren't focused enough in America and the only way that I can think of trying to solve that is to make schools stricter on students to try and make them feel that school matters. I don't support hitting students, but something which I have no idea what it is, should make public schools stricter.

Also... an amendment to make federal schooling constitutional because it isn't in the list of the powers of congress. The states shouldn't be in charge on controlling all of schooling because the whole economy should focus on better education at the same level. It also doesn't make sense to have states with worse education and less taxes to have more less skilled jobs, because those products should be imported. The cost of schooling would also cause harmful differences in taxes that would sap highly educated people in some areas.