No More Home School For Californians - Page 4

Leo · 03-09-2008, 12:07 PM

Might I be allowed to give a student's view of the matter? I think home-schooling is a very bad idea.

My schooling is the exact opposite of home school. I am a boarder in another country, and I go home once a year at Christmas time. (I didn't even get to go home this Christmas coz I'm sick.) And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Being a boarder is fun - it's like a big sleepover all year round.

I would hate to be home-schooled; I think the whole concept sucks big time.

The school I am in is a very expensive one, and all the teachers are highly qualified (most hold doctorates), so I cannot see any mum or dad having the combined abilities of all these people. We have a huge library here, and constant access to information centres around the world. This and my last school both hold the highest academic record in their respective countries. We also have two Olympic sized swimming pools, three football fields, five tennis courts, and lots of other sports areas.

There is no religious indoctrination whatsoever (those boys who are religious can go to chapel if they want, but nobody is forced to learn religion,) and we learn the social skills and independence which comes from being in an environment where there is no mummy to run home to.

I cannot imagine a worse idea than being stuck at home being taught what your mum or dad thinks you should know (together with all their prejudices ).

Notmyrealname · 03-10-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo

Might I be allowed to give a student's view of the matter? I think home-schooling is a very bad idea.

My schooling is the exact opposite of home school. I am a boarder in another country, and I go home once a year at Christmas time. (I didn't even get to go home this Christmas coz I'm sick.) And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Being a boarder is fun - it's like a big sleepover all year round.

I would hate to be home-schooled; I think the whole concept sucks big time.

The school I am in is a very expensive one, and all the teachers are highly qualified (most hold doctorates), so I cannot see any mum or dad having the combined abilities of all these people. We have a huge library here, and constant access to information centres around the world. This and my last school both hold the highest academic record in their respective countries. We also have two Olympic sized swimming pools, three football fields, five tennis courts, and lots of other sports areas.

There is no religious indoctrination whatsoever (those boys who are religious can go to chapel if they want, but nobody is forced to learn religion,) and we learn the social skills and independence which comes from being in an environment where there is no mummy to run home to.

I cannot imagine a worse idea than being stuck at home being taught what your mum or dad thinks you should know (together with all their prejudices ).

The way you live you life is the way you chose to live your life. Your family decided to send you to a boarding school, and you had the RIGHT and opporunity to make that decision. There's nothing wrong with boarding school, but what if some buearcrat decided private schools were also a threat to public education and needed to be banned? How would you feel about it then.

It's not about you liking it or not. It's about the right for families to make decisions regarding their education. You don't have to like the idea of home schooling, or religious bias parents teaching their childern, but you should acknowledge the right of every family to decide how to educate their childern.

Leo · 03-10-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Notmyrealname

The way you live you life is the way you chose to live your life. Your family decided to send you to a boarding school, and you had the RIGHT and opporunity to make that decision. There's nothing wrong with boarding school, but what if some buearcrat decided private schools were also a threat to public education and needed to be banned? How would you feel about it then.

It's not about you liking it or not. It's about the right for families to make decisions regarding their education. You don't have to like the idea of home schooling, or religious bias parents teaching their childern, but you should acknowledge the right of every family to decide how to educate their childern.

Your point is taken, but I am not denying anyone the opportunity to go to the school of their choice. I am giving my opinion, as a high school student, on the matter. I think it is an inadequate form of education (and has dangers related to incorrect information or religious indoctrination - the teaching of creationism, for example) and I am stating why I think this is so.

I have a preference for sports or GT cars (but I am not fortunate enough to own one

), however, this does not mean that I condemn everyone who drives a four door saloon car. I can justify this preference from my point of view, and I am doing something similar with the question of home schooling.

Notmyrealname · 03-10-2008, 09:53 PM

The last thing we need is tolerance to Christianty in this World. If that's allowed some Muslim sucide bomber might become offended.

It's obvious your pampered liefstyle has left you with a feeling of elitism. You think the world should believe and live your way, after all it's so comfortable. I can tell that not every person has the privledge and protection you have. While your deciding if your going to play polo or cricket this afternoon, there's some kids in the United States who are hoping to get home safely from school.

There is evidence that shows on average home schoolers do better on college entrance exams, and in college than public school graduates. Considering that 20-30 percent of public school graduates are illiterate. I don't see how home schoolers could do much worse.

I'm sure all this is going right over your head. You're special. You have a elitist life. Good for you. Now let the rest of the world decide what best for them.

Leo · 03-12-2008, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Notmyrealname

The last thing we need is tolerance to Christianty in this World. If that's allowed some Muslim sucide bomber might become offended.

What leap in (il)logic is this? The thing the world most needs is tolerance (and this includes tolerance of other religious ideals such as Islam). The last thing the world needs is more intolerance such as that demonstrated by fundamentalist Christians and Muslims. And how in seven shades of blue did this discussion become about Muslim suicide bombers?

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Originally Posted by Notmyrealname

It's obvious your pampered liefstyle has left you with a feeling of elitism. You think the world should believe and live your way, after all it's so comfortable. I can tell that not every person has the privledge and protection you have. While your deciding if your going to play polo or cricket this afternoon, there's some kids in the United States who are hoping to get home safely from school.

Why would you presume to know anything about me or my lifestyle? What I have written on these pages indicates nothing more than the situation of your average British public school boarder. When have I expressed anything that could be construed as elitism? And please be advised that I enjoy neither particular privilege nor protection.

BTW, and for your information, schoolboys in the British world do not habitually play polo. Not every school has a string of polo ponies available.

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Originally Posted by Notmyrealname

There is evidence that shows on average home schoolers do better on college entrance exams, and in college than public school graduates. Considering that 20-30 percent of public school graduates are illiterate. I don't see how home schoolers could do much worse.

I'm sure all this is going right over your head. You're special. You have a elitist life. Good for you. Now let the rest of the world decide what best for them.

Well, I am sure that we would all appreciate viewing this evidence and its unbiased sources. Presumably the great universities have a record of the superior performance shown by home-schoolers in their entrance and other exams. In that event, it should be a simple matter to obtain and publish such records.

May I suggest that you might make your point more effectively by producing such objective evidence than by personal criticism of me and my lifestyle?

Professor Peabody · 07-22-2008, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bourne

I don't want to insult your beliefs about governemnt, really I don't, but to cry that the home school sky is falling based on just one justified case is jumping to conclusions, wouldn't you say?

It's really not so far fetched considering the socialist Politburo in Sacramento. California ranks 7th in the states with the highest taxes, over 40% of the yearly budget is spent on education, yet we have dropped from 30th to 47th in education achievement. This on the heels of add several hundred million in new funding every year. More and more kids are home schooling going to private schools.

Goldwater · 07-22-2008, 03:55 PM

The people I know who were home school'd are weirdos. There is something to be said for developing social skills with large groups of rotten teenagers, god those little entitled cell phone brats piss me off.

Leo · 07-23-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwater

The people I know who were home school'd are weirdos. There is something to be said for developing social skills with large groups of rotten teenagers, god those little entitled cell phone brats piss me off.

I don't know any home-schooled kids, but my mates who do, say exactly the same thing as you. Like they are too precious for words, and have all the social skills of a stunned mullet.

And I don't believe they get a rounded education - like how many homes can boast PhDs with teacher training in just about every discipline?