justoneman

The left on Air America is also trying to imply that Alexander Hamilton was the Republican and Jefferson the Democrat. They try to re-write history.

Why are they doing this? I think they want to try to create a better "first" Democrat, rather than it being Andrew Jackson the old indian slaughtering General.

"the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the "sin" of creating values."

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Burning Giraffe

EXCELLENT point. Well said.

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Pragmatist

I think they may be doing it in attempt to convince those simple minded enough to think it makes a difference who the hell the first democrat or republican was.

Ausinus

Or maybe it doesnt matter in the slightest.

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justoneman

It does not take super intelligence to know who was the first of both parties. It does take some smarts to realize the propaganda campaign going on at lefty radio talk shows. This is the campaign to make people believe that Jefferson's party was the Democratic party. I guess with all of the horrible Democratic Presidents that have existed like: Franklin Pierce and James Buchanan and Andrew Johnson, they have to try to re invent the beginnings. Lets face it these early Democrats were truly horrible with their feet firmly planted in maintaining slavery and after the Civil War, in keeping the black man down.

"the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the "sin" of creating values."

Defensor

Alexander Hamilton would have been comfortable in either of today's parties.

justoneman

And what did Democratic President Johnson think about the slaves that the previous Republican (Lincoln) emancipate?

Andrew Johnson, in a letter to Governor Thomas C. Fletcher of Missouri, wrote, "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men."

Andrew Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the "sin" of creating values."

justoneman

Johnson and his appointees created "black code" laws that blocked the freedoms and rights of the newly freed slaves. The Republicans in Congress blocked the Ex confederates from assuming office. Republican Senator Lyman Turnbull of Illinois proposed the first civil rights laws. Democrat Johnson vetoed these laws.

"the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the "sin" of creating values."

justoneman

How about Franklin Pierce two Presidents before Lincoln and some 10 years prior to the Civil war. What did he do? Well he conspried with Stephen Douglas and some pro slavery southern senators, to repeal the Missouri compromise. That compromise agreement between the anti and the pro slavery Senators was passed in order to limit slavery to a certain boundary. Pierce favored the further expansion of slavery farther north. This law (the Kansas-Nebraska Act) he backed led to the bloody fighting in Kansas, and can be directly claimed to have led to the Civil War.

Nice job Pierce.

"the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the "sin" of creating values."

justoneman

How about the Democratic President after Pierce and befor Lincoln? James Buchanan!!. What a piece of work he was. He was very much pro slavery. He once said in a Presidencial address that the slaves were: "treated with kindness and humanity... Both the philanthropy and the self-interest of the master have combined to produce this humane result."


He heavily backed the Dred Scott case in the supreme court. It is believed that there was court coersion involving Buchanan. Because of this slaves were by law named as property of the owners and they could then enter northern territories to take back escaped slaves as there objects. Buchanan did nothing when seven states seceded at the end of his term. He did virtually nothing to save the military forts that existed in the south. He did nothing to reinforce fort Sumter of supplies when it was blockaded.

He did nothing. he did nothing. And the nation desended into caos. he did nothing.

"the willingness of the good to suffer at the hands of the evil, to accept the role of sacrificial victim for the "sin" of creating values."