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05-09-2008, 09:17 AM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
Bowerbird, tell ya what, you buy into Al's scare tactics, you pay for the air you breathe, (help fill Als coffers even more) if it makes you feel that you're contributing to the betterment of the world. I'll take bonifide scientis words for it, of which several have said Als claims are bunk.
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05-09-2008, 09:25 AM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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Originally Posted by Migi e!
Bowerbird, tell ya what, you buy into Al's scare tactics, you pay for the air you breathe, (help fill Als coffers even more) if it makes you feel that you're contributing to the betterment of the world. I'll take bonifide scientis words for it, of which several have said Als claims are bunk.
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Migi - I will tell you what - I will put MY ability to critique science against yours and see who comes out on top? I am game - pick a peer reviewed article and discuss it.
Meantime see the post I just finished on the debate thread - and try to remember that global climate change is not about Al Gore - he is only of peripheral interest to me because personally I would rather believe some of the people who are in the business every day - and NOT the 60 odd scientists (out of thousands world wide) who form the core of the oil bought sceptics.
As I said before what REALLY peeves me about those "sceptics" is the fact that they are not honest. I think the prime example of the dishonesty is the scam pulled by the "Oregon Institute".
They misquote, they fudge, they misrepresent and in all have zero credibility, which they then claim is because they are being "persecuted" for speaking out against global warming 
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05-09-2008, 12:37 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
I'm seeing a shift in ideology in the US from left and right to progressives and flat-earthers who doubt any science that bodes any fundamental change in conventional wisdom. Why else would their defense be so emotional and personally directed?
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05-09-2008, 12:38 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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Originally Posted by Migi e!
Give ya three guesses....
WHat a hack he is, using a tragedy to espouse more of his lies!!!
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You get very touchy when people say you're lying. How do you know Gore is "espousing" lies? Can you prove it?
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05-09-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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Originally Posted by Bowerbird
Migi - I will tell you what - I will put MY ability to critique science against yours and see who comes out on top? I am game - pick a peer reviewed article and discuss it.
Meantime see the post I just finished on the debate thread - and try to remember that global climate change is not about Al Gore - he is only of peripheral interest to me because personally I would rather believe some of the people who are in the business every day - and NOT the 60 odd scientists (out of thousands world wide) who form the core of the oil bought sceptics.
As I said before what REALLY peeves me about those "sceptics" is the fact that they are not honest. I think the prime example of the dishonesty is the scam pulled by the "Oregon Institute".
They misquote, they fudge, they misrepresent and in all have zero credibility, which they then claim is because they are being "persecuted" for speaking out against global warming 
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Al Gore is a scientist???  Maybe a Scientologist. I don't believe a degree in journalissm/communications is a qualifier for science.
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05-09-2008, 12:53 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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You get very touchy when people say you're lying. How do you know Gore is "espousing" lies? Can you prove it?
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Scientists have said he doesn't know what he's talking about. That's good enough for me.
You're the only one that has called me a liar or accused me of lying, is that what you're doing now?
Can I prove it? Can you prove Al gore is correct?
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05-09-2008, 01:15 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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Originally Posted by Migi e!
Scientists have said he doesn't know what he's talking about. That's good enough for me.
You're the only one that has called me a liar or accused me of lying, is that what you're doing now?
Can I prove it? Can you prove Al gore is correct?
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Madam, YOU are calling Al Gore a liar. "Scientists" also say that Al Gore DOES know what he's talking about, yet you reject it out of hand and question his integrity without any evidence of deceit. Wrong? maybe (I think he's right). But to call him a liar because you don't agree with him...well, we all know what that means.
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05-09-2008, 01:23 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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Originally Posted by Davocrat
Madam, YOU are calling Al Gore a liar. "Scientists" also say that Al Gore DOES know what he's talking about, yet you reject it out of hand and question his integrity without any evidence of deceit. Wrong? maybe (I think he's right). But to call him a liar because you don't agree with him...well, we all know what that means.
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Al Gore is a liar. Remember, he was VP under the most corrupt president in US history, and he's the one that invented the Lipton Ice Tea Excuse.
Let's at least be able to face the basic facts about Al Gore, okay?
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MYOB. - The key to liberty. Don't know MYOB? Leave me alone and mind your own business.
I'm a greedy selfish bastard, and damn proud of it.
You're not foolish enough to trust government, are you? Then think about this:
Since there isn't any corn on the cob, thanks solely to government interference, my kids have lost the freedom to eat corn on the cob on the Fourth of July this year.
What the hell kind of country are the socialists building here?
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05-09-2008, 01:31 PM
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
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Originally Posted by Davocrat
Madam, YOU are calling Al Gore a liar. "Scientists" also say that Al Gore DOES know what he's talking about, yet you reject it out of hand and question his integrity without any evidence of deceit. Wrong? maybe (I think he's right). But to call him a liar because you don't agree with him...well, we all know what that means.
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yes, good post. the people that tend to be so offended when their truthfullness is questioned are also the ones that accuse others of the same thing the most.
disagree with al gore all day long. i probably don't agree with him. but short of a closed door meeting with him that proves it, or seeing into his inner thoughts somehow, only an idiot could call him a liar.
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05-09-2008, 01:44 PM
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Taze me bro!
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Re: Al Blames Burma Cyclone On....
We had snow a couple of weeks ago, I blame global warming. 
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