Does only Israel have the rights to have nuclear weapons in the middle east? - Page 10

Bobcat · 05-30-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by joetalmadge

Nowhere have I said that Israel should be deprived of nukes!

I'm sorry. I thought you had a point. (I should have known better.)

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I don't have to prove Israel has nukes. You're the only person I know of, who has access to the media sources totally overwhelmingly agreeing that they do, who has decided that there is no proof!

And your proof was....? I kind of missed it.

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I sure hope you are not teaching evolution.

If I were, I'm sure I'd have pictures up of you in my classroom.

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To take a stand that Israel has not been proven to have nukes is an empty, shallow, argument, as have been most of your arguments.

Well, don't you actually have to have some evidence, other than somebody said such and such ? because, I'm afraid, that's all you have at this point. You see, I haven't claimed that Israel has or doesn't have nukes. Consequently, I don't have to prove anything. You're the one who claims to have proof, and I'm still waiting to see it.

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Let's see there was that claim a few months back that Israel has shrunk in size since Independence;

Never claimed it. I said they only received a fraction of the territory they were promised. Trying not to put words in my mouth until you can make sense of your own, please.

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then there was the argument that the palestinians all left peacefully;

Once more, stick to your own words and get them straight. I said they left as a consequence of the war.

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and now apparently the fact that Olmert admitted having nukes,

...and denied it in his next breath....

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Carter stating they did;

I wouldn't ask Jimmy Carter to be a witness to his own christening....

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and Vanunu being kidnapped and tried for treason for proving it, rings hollow to you.

I think the hollow sound is coming from somewhere between your ears.

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You are, as all zionists I have known, clinging tightly to mythology.

Wait, are you calling me a Jew now? I suppose you can get Jimmy Carter to say that too.

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Your ilk would have denied that the American Indian was deprived of land by the Europeans; or mistreated ( I know, I know, they left voluntarily. Those reservations were much more appealing than the freedom of the plains!); and insisted that the European immigrants were simply acting legally. History has passed you by! World opinion has passed you by! Go back to rereading "Exodus", Dershowitz, Peters, it'll soothe your narrow world.

Breathe, joe, breathe. Feel better now?

joetalmadge · 06-02-2008, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bobcat

Never claimed it. I said they only received a fraction of the territory they were promised. Trying not to put words in my mouth until you can make sense of your own, please.

Your words exactly

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Originally Posted by Bobcat

This isn't true. The borders of Israel are currently a minute fraction of what the UN had mandated for the creation of a Jewish state

Take alook at the UN Palestine division map, then take a look at Israel today. Are you saying the UN promised more but reneged? Evidence?

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Once more, stick to your own words and get them straight. I said they left as a consequence of the war.

Then you added a source claiming that they left "voluntarily", and then back pedalled and said "War is Hell." Are you still claiming that they left "of their own accord" and were not forced out?

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.and denied it in his next breath....

And considering how corrupt he is, I'll take the slip over the retraction.

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I wouldn't ask Jimmy Carter to be a witness to his own christening....

What you think of JC is irrelevant. As POTUS he had access to best intel there is about the Israeli nuke forces, and would know direct from Israel what there capabilities are.

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Wait, are you calling me a Jew now?

No simply one who licks the Israeli arse, no matter how putird it can get.

Bobcat · 06-04-2008, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by joetalmadge

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No simply one who licks the Israeli arse, no matter how putird it can get.

Arab arse is no less putrid, my dear friend, and at least the Israeli's are not trying to slaughter me and terminate my way of life.

Good luck with that, though.

Latherty · 06-04-2008, 07:06 PM

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Arab arse is no less putrid, my dear friend, and at least the Israeli's are not trying to slaughter me and terminate my way of life.

Good luck with that, though.

Someone's trying to kill you and terminate your way of life (although I think your way of life would probably irreparably altered if you were dead)?

Who would that be, then? Who's making you wet your pants?

Bobcat · 06-04-2008, 07:21 PM

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Someone's trying to kill you and terminate your way of life (although I think your way of life would probably irreparably altered if you were dead)?

Who would that be, then? Who's making you wet your pants?

Definitely not you, Lath.

Israel is fighting and dying for their own right to self-determination. After 60 years of living at the very nexus of terrorism, I don't think even you have a right to check anyone's pants.