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06-12-2008, 11:51 AM
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Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Vice President Dick Cheney Wednesday slammed Democrats in Congress and running for president for opposing free trade agreements and leading the country down a "very destructive path" to protectionism.
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Article here..............
NAFTA and other so called "Free Trade" agreements are a source of trouble for this country. Hell the WTO says backing out would hurt, I agree, it would hurt the agenda for a one world economy. Thats a good thing! |
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06-12-2008, 03:57 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
The Democrats have been on a destructive path in trade. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA with Republican congressional support. They're all the same and are screwing over America.
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06-12-2008, 04:00 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Defensor
The Democrats have been on a destructive path in trade. Bill Clinton signed NAFTA with Republican congressional support. They're all the same and are screwing over America.
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Free trade is a risk, but overall free trade agreements are good. |
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
-Winston Churchill
(What alternative do we have though?)
Defensor's analysis of Barack Obama, Democratic nominee for president of the United States:
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Originally Posted by Defensor
Substitute blacks for "Aryans" and whites for "Jews," and you have Barack Obama.
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06-12-2008, 04:01 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Nerv14
Free trade is a risk, but overall free trade agreements are good.
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You got that backwards. Free trade can be good, but overall free trade agreements are BAD news, big-time. |
If the bulk of the public were really convinced of the illegitimacy of the State, if it were convinced that the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large, then the State would soon collapse to take on no more status or breadth of existence than another Mafia gang.
Murray N. Rothbard
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06-12-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by michaelr
Article here..............
NAFTA and other so called "Free Trade" agreements are a source of trouble for this country. Hell the WTO says backing out would hurt, I agree, it would hurt the agenda for a one world economy. Thats a good thing!
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I was all for NAFTA when it was intstituted. Now, it's become quite obvious to me that it was a mistake. I say repeal it and start over.
Oh, and for Dick Cheney to give advice about the economy would be the same as Jeff Dahmer giving vegetarian recipes. Niether one obviously knows jack about what they are babbling about. |
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06-12-2008, 04:04 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Defensor
You got that backwards. Free trade can be good, but overall free trade agreements are BAD news, big-time.
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Free trade agreements are just agreements for "free trade" which is just trade with limited barriers. If you don't support most free trade agreements then that isn't supporting free trade, overall. |
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
-Winston Churchill
(What alternative do we have though?)
Defensor's analysis of Barack Obama, Democratic nominee for president of the United States:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Defensor
Substitute blacks for "Aryans" and whites for "Jews," and you have Barack Obama.
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06-12-2008, 04:06 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Nerv14
Free trade agreements are just agreements for "free trade" which is just trade with limited barriers. If you don't support most free trade agreements then that isn't supporting free trade, overall.
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Governments don't need to sign any 'agreement' for there to be free trade. NAFTA and such are managed trade agreements. |
If the bulk of the public were really convinced of the illegitimacy of the State, if it were convinced that the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large, then the State would soon collapse to take on no more status or breadth of existence than another Mafia gang.
Murray N. Rothbard
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06-12-2008, 04:07 PM
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Think for myself
I was all for NAFTA when it was intstituted. Now, it's become quite obvious to me that it was a mistake. I say repeal it and start over.
Oh, and for Dick Cheney to give advice about the economy would be the same as Jeff Dahmer giving vegetarian recipes. Niether one obviously knows jack about what they are babbling about.
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Why was NAFTA a mistake?
(and Dick Cheney is alot of things, but he's not ignorant of commerce) |
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06-12-2008, 04:12 PM
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Who loves ya baby......
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Latherty
Why was NAFTA a mistake?
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In my opinion.
NAFTA was supposed to stem the tide of illegal immigration and provide America with cheap labor to farm out some of it's production while opening up a market to us. Several slight problems. Huge American companies bought up farms in Mexico, as the land was cheap, the labor was cheap, and there were no environmental issues to worry about. This pushed literally hundreds of thousands of small farmers out of business, and unemployment in Mexico went up. What were these people to do? There was no jobs available.
As for the farming out of unskilled labor, rather than companies continue to expand, they simply closed up shop here and moved there. Instant boost to the company bottom line, bad for our unskilled workers.
It opened up a few markets full of very poor people to us, who could afford to be very little of our goods. |
Tick, on irony
Yea, well genious is hard to beat, but, at least we try.
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06-12-2008, 04:14 PM
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Taze me bro!
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Re: Cheney says Democrats on 'destructive path' in trade
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Originally Posted by Latherty
Why was NAFTA a mistake?
(and Dick Cheney is alot of things, but he's not ignorant of commerce)
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Your right, he know exactly what he is doing, and screwing. |
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