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06-19-2008, 11:15 AM
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Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
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Want to win £10,000? Then prove that homeopathy works in proper clinical trials in which half the patients receive the treatment, half receive a placebo, and no one knows till the end who got what.
The challenge was issued on Monday by Edzard Ernst, professor of complementary medicine at the University of Exeter, UK, and science author Simon Singh, in the wake of what they call a smear campaign against them in response to their book Trick or Treatment, which explores the scientific evidence behind complementary remedies. "We're saying to homeopaths, 'put up or shut up'," says Singh.
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Competition puts homeopathy on trial - health - 18 June 2008 - New Scientist
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06-19-2008, 01:07 PM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
I'd like to go on record as saying that if anyone can prove homeopathy works in proper, double-blind clinical trials, then I will happily add every penny I own, both testicles and a lung onto the prize.
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06-19-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
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Originally Posted by caffeine
I'd like to go on record as saying that if anyone can prove homeopathy works in proper, double-blind clinical trials, then I will happily add every penny I own, both testicles and a lung onto the prize.
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You lying bastard. We all know you only have one testicle.
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06-19-2008, 08:08 PM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
Homeopathy DOES work. But it is not the substances (that aren't there in some cases because of the extreme dilutions) that are working.
Placebo effects are well known with other "non-working" comparison medication in clinical trials as well. But people report feeling better.
I thought feeling better was good? With the additional benefit of filling the pockets of homeopaths.
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06-19-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
The research so far has been interesting
Homeopathy study wins few converts - 27 September 1997 - New Scientist
A homeopathic remedy based on arsenic oxide has shown "highly promising results" in mice poisoned with arsenic, say Indian scientists.
The homeopathic antidote reduced the liver toxicity induced by arsenic in mice, where distilled water did nothing, and alcohol actually exacerbated the poison's effects.
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A homeopathic remedy based on arsenic oxide has shown "highly promising results" in mice poisoned with arsenic, say Indian scientists.
The homeopathic antidote reduced the liver toxicity induced by arsenic in mice, where distilled water did nothing, and alcohol actually exacerbated the poison's effects.
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Homeopathy reduces arsenic poisoning in mice - 22 October 2003 - New Scientist
and this is the best one - look at the Belfast research , which for some reason will not copy and paste at the moment
13 things that do not make sense - space - 19 March 2005 - New Scientist Space
I am not saying I believe but that there is an anomaly we have not quite worked out here.
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At present, the internet allows one to claim anything, relationship to royalty, physical attributes and expertise they do not have...........
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06-21-2008, 05:29 AM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
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Originally Posted by chu chu rocket
Homeopathy DOES work. But it is not the substances (that aren't there in some cases because of the extreme dilutions) that are working.
Placebo effects are well known with other "non-working" comparison medication in clinical trials as well. But people report feeling better.
I thought feeling better was good? With the additional benefit of filling the pockets of homeopaths.
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It works. But the big drug companies want you to keep buying and using all of there drugs that do nothing more than mask the symptons. I have gotten rid of all of my conventional medicine at home and replaced them with homeopathic remedies. They all work and I'm not having any problems or side effects.
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The Political situation in America = The light at the end of the tunnel has just gone out.
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06-24-2008, 04:34 AM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
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Originally Posted by TurnBackTheClock
It works. But the big drug companies want you to keep buying and using all of there drugs that do nothing more than mask the symptons. I have gotten rid of all of my conventional medicine at home and replaced them with homeopathic remedies. They all work and I'm not having any problems or side effects.
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I think you may have misunderstood what chu chu was saying. They work in the same way that a glass of water would, if someone convinced you it was a miracle cure.
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07-01-2008, 10:56 PM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
Homeopathic diet pill:
Hold firmly between teeth for 24 hours.
Homeopathic birth control pill:
Hold loosely between knees as needed.
Now pay me.
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" The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. [] Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."
-- James Madison, speech in the House of Representatives, January 10, 1794
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07-01-2008, 11:30 PM
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Re: Prove homeopathy works, win £10,000 ($19,700 USD)
Chu-Chu is close to right but the evidence for the otherside is lacking. Given that medical error is a leading cause, maybe THE leading cause of death in the US and most other industrialized nations this is about the only sound argument for socialized medicine. When the MDs go on strike the gravediggers go on vacation whereever socialized medicine is on offer or when the waiting line is too long.
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Socio-biology and selection is a fact of life and death not a political option
Politics is a continuation of war by other means
Calling congress a parliament of whores insults the morals and principle of crack whores
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