Sparta

Interesting that Canada is filled with so many sick people that you can't see a doctor, while an OR is waiting for them in the US. I wonder if Canadians are eating poorly, or have bad air quality, or maybe the issue is that people who need care in the US can't afford to get it so there's always a vacancy. I guess I'll find out when I get sick.

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nuit

I really hope you don't call yourself a christian.

He shall fall down into the pit called Because, and there he shall perish with the dogs of Reason. - A. Crowley

bains

As a Canadian I don't feel our healthcare system is in crisis. Although comparing the health care policies of Quebec with that of the rest of Canada is not the best idea either. If you're so naive as to think the Canadian Gov't won't raise taxes - You're wrong. Several Canadian provinces are raising taxes again in different sectors, some as soon as July 1st. The federal gov't funds the healthcare, but it's up to each individual province on how the funds are utilized.

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Latherty

I think it might be the only form that permits a relationship between Stat and Citizen.

Autocracy generally views the citizens as chattels of the State (the Royal "we"). thereby there cannot be a relationship between them.

Latherty

The Australian system, and correct me if I am wrong as I haven't been there for years, has a parallel private and public hospitals and care.

So that people can pay up for better care if they want to, and this acts as a pressure valve on the public system. As the ques get longer, those who are impatient and have the money to do so go for private help, and so the ques shorten again. The system kind of stays in a natural equilibrium.

And healthcare remains universal.

Best way to run it, IMO.

nuit

Well its been a while since i've been there too. There's been a change of govt and things are changing. It isn't completely parallel, but complementary. So if you have cancer, want a private room, you can use your private health care to supplement the costs - ie the private insurance will pay the private room. but if you don't mind where your bed is then the govt will pay the full cost. For elective stuff, and this is the stuff that'll improve the quality of your life but is not life threatening, then you have to get in a line, or you can do it with your health insurance but the govt will chip in. If you want plastic surgery then its on your own dime, which is fair. You used to get a tax break if you had health insurance.
but I've heard the new govt has changed some of the rules but i am not sure how exactly. also i am not exactly sure where they draw the line between is between elective stuff and the stuff that'll save your life is. I am no expert.

He shall fall down into the pit called Because, and there he shall perish with the dogs of Reason. - A. Crowley

Libre

They have America to subsidize them. Let their pyramid scheme stand on its own and see how long it lasts. Either way, it will fail as all ponzi schemes eventually do. It's only a matter of time.

nuit

Please substantiate your claim. Australia's economy is pretty much independent of the US' economy.

He shall fall down into the pit called Because, and there he shall perish with the dogs of Reason. - A. Crowley

Libre

Why not educate yourself on how nearly all medicine and new medical techniques are introduced in America first (regardless of where they originate) where the companies can make a profit to subsidize socialist nations?

Why don't you also figure out that even independent of the Iraq war, America spends more on our military and world policing ( I wish we didn't) THAN THE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED?

The America taxpayer's money is spent keeping the world a basically safe place while the Australian taxpayer has no such cross to bear. Imagine if Australia, being a country surrounded by water, actually had to bear the true cost of keeping all its shipping lanes safe, keeping air travel safe, etc?

How many fighter planes did Australia produce last year and have to subsidize the R&D for?

What about any other weapons systems that the Australian taxpayer has born the burden of developing?

Australia's economy separate? Funniest thing I read today. But I would love to see it.

william the wierd

My in-laws all live just south of the Canadian border and do not want a Canadian system. I have my own ideological positions but let me note that there are waiting lines for nurse and doctor immigrants to get into the US. The only doctor or nurse that I know of who headed the other way even temporarily is Armand Hammer.

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