All with out a shot being fired. - Page 2

Feslin · 06-29-2008, 01:36 AM

Seems like a stalling tactic to me.

conservative · 06-29-2008, 07:34 AM

Anyone want to give George W. Bush some credit?

justoneman · 06-29-2008, 12:27 PM

They have a soviet built reactor in North Korea. It started running in 1985. They have a life expectency of about 30 years. The cooling tower is a small part of the facility. The reactor they have been using for many years was being replaced with a new one. I am not sure of any of what North Korea does. That Kim Ill is a liar and a cheat. I do not trust him as far as I can throw him. Sure it is good he blew up the tower, but I suspect there is much more to the story than that.

justoneman · 06-29-2008, 12:35 PM

The USA paid North Korea 2.5 million to destroy the tower. Tell me why the UN is not paying for it? If the USA is not the police of the world then why do we pay for this stuff? I wonder also is this just seed money for the Koreans to build a new cooling tower by their newer reactor? Like I said. I do not trust the leader of North Korea one tiny bit.

Bourne · 06-29-2008, 01:56 PM

Korea has a long way to go in order to gain respectability.

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For some 30 years, officials of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea have been apprehended for trafficking in narcotics and other criminal activity, including passing counterfeit U.S. notes. Since 1976, there have been at least 50 arrests/drug seizures involving North Koreans in more than 20 countries around the world. More recently, there have been very clear indications, especially from a series of methamphetamine seizures in Japan, that North Koreans traffic in, and probably manufacture, methamphetamine drugs.

Given the tight controls in place throughout North Korea and the continuing seizures of amphetamines and heroin suspected of originating from North Korea, one wonders how any entity other than the state itself could be responsible for this high-volume drug trafficking. Drug transfers between North Korean vessels at sea also suggest probable state involvement. Likewise, it is very hard to imagine any entity other than the North Korean State undertaking trafficking on the scale and operational complexity of the "Pong Su" incident in Australia.

Drugs, Counterfeiting, and Arms Trade: The North Korean Connection

Dr.Knuckles · 06-29-2008, 02:08 PM

Along with the money, (and doesn't North Korea print enough of its own counterfit US money anyway?) they were also rewarded with being taken off the US's terrorist state list.

I'll give the Bush admin credit. They've made quite a bit of progress in the "don't drop bombs on people" area, and they've managed to keep Russia, China, Japan and South Korea sidelined and out of the picture in order to keep things civil and rational - as all 4 of those players are the most threatened by Kim's freak show. And having lived in both S. Korea nd japan I think this is the biggst victory for the US, as China is growing sick and tired of having to pretend to support or care about North Korea, and Japan and South Korea are so totally fed up with Kim they would like to see the B-52's start flying tomorrow.

This is what should be done with Iran. Seperate them from their neighbors, pressure them with economic sanctions, and wait them out. "Walk softly and carry a big stick" is different than "stagger around drunkenly bashing random people with a big stick".

If it doesn't work out, well it was still worth the shot.

Davocrat · 06-29-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by conservative

Anyone want to give George W. Bush some credit?

For not invading? Yeah, okay. Good job not doubly over-extending the troops, W.

Dr.Knuckles · 06-29-2008, 02:58 PM

I'll even go further. Thank you Dick Cheney for not deliberately making North Korea a client state and arming them with the worlds most advanced weapons and giving them WMD yourself to ensure that all moves towards freedom are violently put down by the regime.

Now as for Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Isreal...