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06-28-2008, 01:30 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by Ronster
You are suggesting that the policies they put in place will have benign effect on society. And that simply is not true. We are feeling it right now. GW hystarics are playing a role in economics right now. Imagine when our taxes go up another 20%+ to pay for the "good" of society/planet. I don't know about you, but I have been pretty damn broke lately, and I can't afford more burden placed on me and maintain my standard of living, which is pretty basic as it is. And to me, the available science concering GW does not warrant this kind of action. Besides, world governments will get thier hands on our money and WASTE it, just like ALL bureaucracies do. It will put a bigger gap in between the elite and normal people. And when that happens we will lose our right to have a choice, to earn a decent living, and to pursue our own dreams. NO, not just no, BUT HELL NO.
No fucking thank you,
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fair enough, but so far there has been little or no talk of raising taxes to help stop gw. it just isn't happening. you're focusing on something that doesn't really exist as your fuel for trying to debunk manmade gw.
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06-28-2008, 01:55 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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It is now an international movement. It is the new religion. And any time anyone brings real data to show that these religious fruitcakes are full of shit another set of fruitcakes comes out and tries to discredit their findings with half truths and bullshit data. They don't have to prove it, all they have to do is say it and half the people will automaticly believe them. That's all they need to stay in the money.
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Well it seems that the current administration has got not enough people believing that global warming doesn't exist. How the fuck they did that without backing their claim up without proof or hard facts is beyond me. Maybe you give me some insight on how that works Ronster.
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06-28-2008, 02:29 PM
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An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by steezer
Well it seems that the current administration has got not enough people believing that global warming doesn't exist. How the fuck they did that without backing their claim up without proof or hard facts is beyond me. Maybe you give me some insight on how that works Ronster.
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Pretty easy, you don't put the cart before the horse. The data that was available did not support what these GW kooks have been saying. Plus, what the stupid Koyto agreement was trying to do is bring captialism too its knees.
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06-28-2008, 02:33 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by nickcuse
fair enough, but so far there has been little or no talk of raising taxes to help stop gw. it just isn't happening. you're focusing on something that doesn't really exist as your fuel for trying to debunk manmade gw.
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UN scientists urge carbon tax to fight global warming
UN scientists urge carbon tax to fight global warming | Environment | The Guardian
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"If you always do what You've always done, You'll always get what you always got!"
"If you ain't mad, you ain't paying attention."
www.alipac.us
"National Taxes? National Borders!!"
"Never argue with a Moron, they will only drag you down to thier level and then beat you with experience"
Democrats credo, "why think, when we can do it for you?"
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06-28-2008, 03:01 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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do i want more of nothing? no, not really. not one of those "things" talked about RAISING taxes to fight carbon emissions. and the dingell plan talks about a 50 cent per gallon gas tax, at the pump, something certain libertarians seem to favor. tax goods not income is what they always say. and the op-ed piece from the nyt was a joke! you didn't even bother to read what was a humor piece.
plus i probably should have been more clear in my original statement. when i said there isn't any talk of raising taxes to fight gw, i meant talk by people who matter. not bloggers, not scientists in the un, and not humor op-ed pieces.
so th only one of your "examples" that even comes close to that is dingells plan, but like i said, his plan is no raising taxes, as in raising how much your income is taxed. its put a high sales tax on goods, in this case, gasoline. and like i said, a lot of people are in favor of this, as without government intervention, gas would cost $8 a gallon anyway.
so instead of asking if i wanted more of this "proof", you should start by providing some first. then we'll see if i want more.
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06-28-2008, 03:12 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by Fishmint
A. Who is the author?
B. Why is it on the site of an electronic manufacturer?
C. Why is it more credible than the Federation of American Scientists?
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OMFG! Thanks for a reply from one of the Global Warming Flock Totally Proving my point.
These were both very simple articles that deal with basic scientific method at a high school level. Thanks for absolutely proving you don't know a thing about the scientific method and that you are dead set against learning anything about it showing why people like yourself are nothing more than Global Warming Fruits, ripe for the picking.
Instead of actually dealing with the basics of what the article said, you use logical fallacy (argument from authority and ad hominem) to form your blanket dismissal.
Go buy yourself a high school textbook on the scientific method before gullible people like yourselves destroy our entire economy and do some real damage.
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The claim that all aussies think exactly alike is nonsensical, and I don't remember anyone claiming it.
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I agree, it's a fucking stupid claim only a moron would make. So ask your buddy Bowzerbird why why she made it.
Last edited by Libre; 06-28-2008 at 03:16 PM.
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06-28-2008, 03:17 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by Bluegrass
Yeah, fuck science.
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See above proving that exact sentiment by one of the sheeple.
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06-28-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by Libre
These were both very simple articles that deal with basic scientific method at a high school level. Thanks for absolutely proving you don't know a thing about the scientific method and that you are dead set against learning anything about it showing why people like yourself are nothing more than Global Warming Fruits, ripe for the picking.
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Way to not answer any questions regarding your articles! Instead you chose to rely on pompous sophistry and your usual condescencion. How sad you can not even answer a few questions. Your the type of person politicians prey on.
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I agree, it's a fucking stupid claim only a moron would make. So ask your buddy Bowzerbird why why she made it.
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Id guess that your taking it out of context or distorting it, but I don't really care. I prefer to stick to the topic rather than calling people morons.
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06-28-2008, 03:20 PM
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Re: The Problems With the "Science" Behind Global Warming.
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Originally Posted by nickcuse
but is the gw movement any different than the fear-mongering movement that the bush admin has been pushing for 7 years? there isn't any more credible evidence that we're on the verge of a terrorist attack on a daily basis than there is that gw is manmade. and like the gw movement, there is tons of money to be made in the "war on terror".
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No, it isn't any more credible. I am glad you finally see that.
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the difference is that if a person wants to make a billion dollars selling people solar panels so they can get all their electricity for free, more power to them. that at least is helping people. the buckets of money blackwater is making doesn't help anyone, unless you want to make the impossible to prove claim that they make people "safer".
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Nice straw man but that's not the problem. The problem is our economy is already teetering on the brink of destruction and this issue is being used by both sides of the aisle in an attempt to suck nearly a $1,000,000,000,000 that we don't have out of it. It's also being used to destroy our sovereignty and to illegally put power over the American taxpayer into the hand of unelected world government officials.
That's reality son, try and deal with it for a change.
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