North Pole could be ice-free this summer, scientists say - Page 2

conservative · 06-29-2008, 05:31 AM

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Thak god for someone who can't read to give us scientific advice!
The eruptions -- as big as the one that buried Pompei -- took place in 1999

Yes, and thanks to government schools we now have a lot of stupid, illiterate people swallowing the bilge being pumped out by the likes of Gore. The man-made Global warming myth is nothing more than a leftist re-distribution of wealth scheme on a global scale.

Tell me GW fanatics...what is the perfect temperature for earth?

Latherty · 06-29-2008, 07:08 AM

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Yes, and thanks to government schools we now have a lot of stupid, illiterate people swallowing the bilge being pumped out by the likes of Gore. The man-made Global warming myth is nothing more than a leftist re-distribution of wealth scheme on a global scale.

Hmmm...

Finland has the best education in the world...
BBC NEWS | Education | Finland tops global school table

Finland is one the most active supporters of AGW mitigation policy....
www.environment.fi - Climate change mitigation in Finland

So maybe our education system is in fact having the OPPOSITE effect, where uneducated people blindly absorb the rantings of the few remaining skeptics?

justoneman · 06-29-2008, 10:31 AM

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Even the North Pole has increased in ice by somewhere around 1/4 over the last 12 months. These people are just losing their minds. Pay no attention. Just wait for them to be wrong and then point it out and watch them squirm, "But we didn't say there WOULD be no ice, we just said that there was a POSSIBILITY!" lol

''We didn't really think that all the ice would melt, we never said it and that isn't the point. The point is that its possible." Oh how silly we'll think they are. We'll point out how ridiculous they are, but this will only strengthen their resolve. The Religion of Doom and Gloom will grow, because as a people become less and less creative, less and less capable, they will fear nature all the more. Their fear will drive them to unspeakable acts of government and, in our frustration, our only recourse will be to laugh at them, as they'll have the guns of government and we'll be left with those pesky and irrelevant facts and logic.

So it is fear mongering.

I have heard some Democratic politicians as of late talking about drilling for oil and why it is a bad idea. One let the cat out of the bag. He said something to the affect that he did not want prices to come down because here is our chance to instill alternative energy programs. The Democrats actually want high prices at the pump! This is why they will vote against drilling for oil in Alaska even though the majority of Alaskans want it. This is why they will continue to vote against allowing a new refinery to be built.

michaelr · 06-29-2008, 10:33 AM

Arctic theme page - North Pole Web Cam

Gee it had better start melting soon.

Pragmatist · 06-29-2008, 10:48 AM

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Funny how bowzerbird's pseudodscientific propaganda piece fails to mention this possibility.

Also funny how your load of shit is also just a "possibility". What makes your explanation any more credible than his?

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Libre Wizard will continually be here to provide a basic scientific education free of charge. You won't even have to steal it from me my liberal friends. Consider it a gift, from me to you

Your "basic scientific education" better be free of charge because it's a load of shit.

conservative · 06-29-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by conservative

Tell me GW fanatics...what is the perfect temperature for earth?

Answer the question....

justoneman · 06-29-2008, 11:15 AM

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he North Pole may be briefly ice-free by September as global warming melts away Arctic sea ice, according to scientists from the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

Scientists say it's a 50-50 bet that the thin Arctic sea ice will completely melt away at the geographic North Pole.

Rest of article here

North Pole could be ice-free this summer, scientists say - CNN.com

But of course this is all the fault of Al Gore!!!

National snow and ice data center!! Gee do you think they might have an agenda?

Stinger · 06-29-2008, 11:59 AM

Hmmm was just down at the shore on the bay. The water doesn't seem to be rising.

Nerv14 · 06-29-2008, 12:46 PM

So what can we do if there is no Artic Sea ice? No scientist has done a simple experiment to see what effect CO2 has on retaining heat in a box and relating that data to the Earth right now, so we still don't know what is warming the Earth.

However, as I have talked about before, if the Earth did warm then it would be very harmful.

I am going to look for that thread right now where i talk about now a warmer Earth is bad. (just because you don't believe in global warming that doesn't mean that you should immedietly be against anything that would help the global warming case, that is being blind and believing something that is untrue just for your political agenda.)

Nerv14 · 06-29-2008, 12:48 PM

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Hmmm was just down at the shore on the bay. The water doesn't seem to be rising.

I am sure you know this and you were just making a randome comment, but science is about long term alterations in the enviornment and looking for the cause. Regardless if one day or one year, was warmed or colder you need to look at a graph of a long period of time, and the Earth is warming.

Some people actualy use evidence like this as real proof for or against global warming, when both sides need to understand that such a short observation like, "the sea level rose one day, that earth is warming" or "this one day was the coldest in 5 years, the Earth is not warming" means completely nothing at all.

But do we know that it is that due to CO2? No