LMFAO, Spain to give Apes Human Rights!

Libre · 06-29-2008, 06:18 PM

LMFAO, hope people like paying the tab for an ape's healthcare! I guess they'll have the right to vote too, not that they would be much dumber than your average Spanish socialist.

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Great apes should have the right to life and freedom, according to a resolution passed in the Spanish parliament, in what could become landmark legislation to enshrine human rights for chimpanzees, gorillas, orang-utans and bonobos.

The environmental committee in the Spanish parliament has approved resolutions urging the country to comply with the Great Apes Project, founded in 1993, which argues that "non-human hominids" should enjoy the right to life, freedom and not to be tortured.

The project was started by the philosophers Peter Singer and Paola Cavalieri, who argued that the ape is the closest genetic relative to humans – that it displays emotions such as love, fear, anxiety and jealousy – and should be protected by similar laws.

The resolutions have cross-party support and it is thought they will become law, meaning that potential experiments on apes in Spain will be banned within a year, according to a Reuters report.

"This is a historic day in the struggle for animal rights and in defence of our evolutionary comrades which will doubtless go down in the history of humanity," Pedro Pozas, the Spanish director of the Great Apes Project, said.

"We have no knowledge of great apes being used in experiments in Spain, but there is currently no law preventing that from happening.''

Using apes in circuses, television commercials or filming will also be banned and while housing apes in Spanish zoos, of which there are currently 315, will remain legal, supporters of the bill have said the conditions in which most of them live will need to improve substantially.

In 1999, scientists and lawyers petitioned New Zealand's parliament to pass a bill conferring "rights" on chimpanzees and other primates. The government gave the great apes something less than human rights, but also something more practical: legal protection from animal experimentation.

The first country to take such a decision was Britain: Home Office guidelines now forbid experiments on chimpanzees, orangutans and gorillas.

Spanish parliament approves 'human rights' for apes | World news | guardian.co.uk

What a bunch of fucktards.

Zarathustra · 06-29-2008, 07:33 PM

I see nothing wrong with recognizing that it is sick and wrong to torture animals, especially ones that are our ancestors.

uncommonman · 06-29-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Libre

LMFAO, hope people like paying the tab for an ape's healthcare! I guess they'll have the right to vote too, not that they would be much dumber than your average Spanish socialist.

Spanish parliament approves 'human rights' for apes | World news | guardian.co.uk

What a bunch of fucktards.

Wait until someone wants to marry one of those apes!

Nerv14 · 06-29-2008, 08:08 PM

lol funny article. but if they want to do that, whatever I don't care. Any torture on apes should be illegal anyway (because of their intelligence). do the scientific experiments on the mice, not the apes.

Libre · 06-29-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Nerv14

lol funny article. but if they want to do that, whatever I don't care. Any torture on apes should be illegal anyway (because of their intelligence). do the scientific experiments on the mice, not the apes.

No one is advocating torture for apes. These people are talking about apes deserving freedom and the same rights under the law as humans. These are two completely different issues.

I have three dogs. I love animals. I don't believe in torturing them unecessarily. But I am not so insane as to put them at the same level of humans. If a new treatment which can save human lives must cause some pain and discomfort to apes then that is what is going to have to happen. Human Life>Animal Life

Nerv14 · 06-29-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Libre

No one is advocating torture for apes. These people are talking about apes deserving freedom and the same rights under the law as humans. These are two completely different issues.

I have three dogs. I love animals. I don't believe in torturing them unecessarily. But I am not so insane as to put them at the same level of humans. If a new treatment which can save human lives must cause some pain and discomfort to apes then that is what is going to have to happen. Human Life>Animal Life

yeah I understand, this article is different. It just reminded me of torture against apes that I feel is wrong, torturing many other animals for human life is fine though.

steezer · 06-29-2008, 10:47 PM

I wonder why this is in US Politics?

Libre · 06-29-2008, 10:49 PM

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I wonder why this is in US Politics?

Where do you think this mentality will eventually migrate to? All of these European ills have a habit of jumping over the ocean and making it here once our politicians see how effective they are as a pandering tool to buy votes.

steezer · 06-29-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Libre

Where do you think this mentality will eventually migrate to? All of these European ills have a habit of jumping over the ocean and making it here once our politicians see how effective they are as a pandering tool to buy votes.

Until it does, my reality says move it to world news were it belongs. Why is that so difficult for you to accept?

Libre · 06-29-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by steezer

Until it does, my reality says move it to world news were it belongs. Why is that so difficult for you to accept?

Why don't you stop playing forum police?