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06-30-2008, 07:14 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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A) The church has been spewing the same racism for twenty years. And Obama seemed to have no problem with it until the negative publicity just got too much for his political ambition to bear.
B) As a grown man, Barack Obama chose to attend the church. Drop this "family" bullshit.
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A) I have only heard one rascist remark. Just being around someone who says one rascist thing doesn't make you rascist.
B) My point stands as it is, interpret it how you want. |
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Substitute blacks for "Aryans" and whites for "Jews," and you have Barack Obama.
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06-30-2008, 07:16 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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A) I have only heard one rascist remark. Just being around someone who says one rascist thing doesn't make you rascist.
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So you have only heard one racist remark? That shows ignorance on your part, not mine.
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B) My point stands as it is, interpret it how you want.
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No, your "point" was debunked as bullshit several posts ago. There was no "family" forcing Barack to attend Trinity. |
If the bulk of the public were really convinced of the illegitimacy of the State, if it were convinced that the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large, then the State would soon collapse to take on no more status or breadth of existence than another Mafia gang.
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06-30-2008, 07:18 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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So you have only heard one racist remark? That shows ignorance on your part, not mine.
No, your "point" was debunked as bullshit several posts ago. There was no "family" forcing Barack to attend Trinity.
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Can you give evidence for how there was only one rascist remark. You haven't brought up any evidence against my new and improved family argument. |
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter"
-Winston Churchill
(What alternative do we have though?)
Defensor's analysis of Barack Obama, Democratic nominee for president of the United States:
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Originally Posted by Defensor
Substitute blacks for "Aryans" and whites for "Jews," and you have Barack Obama.
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06-30-2008, 07:29 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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Can you give evidence for how there was only one rascist remark.
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Put this post up to a mirror.
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You haven't brought up any evidence against my new and improved family argument.
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"New and improved family argument?" WTF are you talking about? Barack Obama, the grown adult man, chose to attend for 20 years a racist black church where hatred was the standard M.O. He chose to get married there and have his kids listen to racial hatred every week. The responsibility lies with him. |
If the bulk of the public were really convinced of the illegitimacy of the State, if it were convinced that the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large, then the State would soon collapse to take on no more status or breadth of existence than another Mafia gang.
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06-30-2008, 07:46 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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Yes, remember when those evil white colonialists turned Rhodesia into the successful "bread-basket of Africa?"
Luckily the black man is in charge now and the country can't even feed itself, and has a 9,000,000% inflation rate.
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Spare me. All colonialism ever did was suppress the local populace and force them into slavery which eschewed revolts that eventually lead to political vacuums in countries. You'll be hard pressed to find any scholars who would have ever agreed with colonialism. |
Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
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06-30-2008, 07:54 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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Spare me. All colonialism ever did was suppress the local populace and force them into slavery which eschewed revolts that eventually lead to political vacuums in countries. You'll be hard pressed to find any scholars who would have ever agreed with colonialism.
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I think Che Guevara has been reincarnated. |
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06-30-2008, 07:57 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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That is true, however there would be a large amount of pressure for him to be at that church because it was his familie's church. Unless you have some examples of him actualy following some rascist advice you can't call him a rascist.
People can chose their family, and I am sure that most religious people pick to go to a certain church mostly because they have been there a while and their family goes. If Obama went to a church on his own, without any other influences, then that would mean that he really had a choice to pick to right now and should then be blamed if the church is rascist.
To call someone a rascist you actualy need some to list something that they did.
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It was? His white family picked that church for him? From what I have read, he would order the sermons of Wright while he was attending Harvard and then chose to join that church after graduation. If we were talking about his children, you might have a point.
I realize this has been already covered in posts above, but your rational makes zero sense.
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06-30-2008, 08:00 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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Spare me. All colonialism ever did was suppress the local populace and force them into slavery which eschewed revolts that eventually lead to political vacuums in countries. You'll be hard pressed to find any scholars who would have ever agreed with colonialism.
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Go ahead and repeat the same baseless hyperbole while I deal in facts.  |
If the bulk of the public were really convinced of the illegitimacy of the State, if it were convinced that the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large, then the State would soon collapse to take on no more status or breadth of existence than another Mafia gang.
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06-30-2008, 08:27 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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Go ahead and repeat the same baseless hyperbole while I deal in facts. |
baseless? what facts? You mean racial inequality? You actually think colonialism was a good thing? News flash, it wasn't the local populace that reaped the benefits. |
Many people would sooner die than think; In fact, they do so.
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06-30-2008, 08:35 PM
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Re: Zimbabwe's last white farmer forced to quit
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baseless? what facts? You mean racial inequality? You actually think colonialism was a good thing? News flash, it wasn't the local populace that reaped the benefits.
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When did I ever say colonialism was a good thing? I said your implication that colonialism is to blame for Zimbabwe's current problems is BS. |
If the bulk of the public were really convinced of the illegitimacy of the State, if it were convinced that the State is nothing more nor less than a bandit gang writ large, then the State would soon collapse to take on no more status or breadth of existence than another Mafia gang.
Murray N. Rothbard
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